The Song Remains The Same

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  If you DF/DA are you then apostate? Just checking...

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  i listened to the 'human apostate' speech and have to say i was pretty appalled by the methods used to draw their conclusions on how to spot & act towards apostates.

  i've never been in a kh and so never had the pleasure of hearing anything like that.

  what got me was the way they defined apostates as basically "people who don't agree with us", and then went on to put apostates in a class along with people who have a "deadly contagious disease", and people who are "mentally ill" - thus (loosely) implying that mental illness is contagious, so stay away our you will catch it!

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  How many hours per week did you study/devote to the WT?

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  how many hours did you put in on average every week in doing wt activities?.

  this would include:-.

  i) the meetings and travelling time to/from,.

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  Watchtower liability for actions based on doctrine?

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  2. medical

  hi i'm back after a pause and having worked very hard and patiently on trying to wake up my wife to ttatt even before she signs up to become a jw.

  it is not an easy road.

  i've also had some interesting dialog with an elder in trying to understand how the wt acts over certain issues.

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  WT 15 July 2013 - "Look at the Artwork!"

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  2. bible

  was just browsing this new issue and trying to make head and tail of what they are talking about, and noticed the final article tucked away on-line;.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/watchtower-artwork/.

  not sure if anyone commented, but it takes me back to the discussions on god's earthly org chart here.. this is what they have to say.... "how many times have you said that to yourself or to others when you opened a new issue of this magazine?

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  Examples please; How does the WTS 'bait and switch' after Baptism...?

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  2. beliefs

  i was wondering if there is a list already on here that presents the key 'game changers' or 'bait and switch' points that will happen once you get baptised?

  this can include behavioral changes by the already members towards the newly baptised.. i've read somewhere about the 'love bombing' and how that stops, heard a bit about the time-in-service reporting, and that pressure to attend the meetings goes up (esp.

  if missing a few).

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  Is the WT really a charity?

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  2. scandals

  further to my enquiries here about the red cross, and also in noticing the autralian financials posted in this thread by jwleaks, i took a look at the uk financial statements helpfully posted at jwleaks here.. there is a lot of good information related to the income and expenses of the wt in the uk over a number of years.

  well worth digging into if you are of a business mind for sure.

  i will focus on the 2011 statements, found here and here since there seems to be two, one for the watchtower and one for the int'l bible students.

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  Wanted - A 'Reverse Witness'

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  2. beliefs

  so the want-to-be-jw wife is getting harder to keep from believing all the nonsense that the wt spouts.

  it is really getting me down as it simply does not compute from my perspective (and many on here i suppose) how and why rational and sane individuals would swallow all the garbage... the phrase i hate the most is "imperfect men", it gets me so wound up when i point out the flip-flops and flaws, and then i ask how anyone would follow 'imperfect men'... up next is "but i truely believe they are god's chosen organisation", but i cannot find any basis for that belief whatsoever... arrgghhh.

  she went to some big meeting last weekend and came back all happyified.

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  Daily Mail shunning article...

  by The Song Remains The Same in

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  2. tech-support

  pity no mention of wts..... url http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2288575/giving-cold-shoulder-it-painful-researchers-claim.html (sorry on ipad cant link it properly).

  apologies if noted already.

  tsrts.

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  Copyright of Food at the Proper Time?

  by The Song Remains The Same in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  1) i wonder why (or how) the wts can claim copyright over the food it dispenses, given that it says the food is spirit directed and from jehovah?

  surely the copyright should reside with jehovah himself?

  can you copyright god's word(s)?.

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  WTBTS and the Red Cross?

  by The Song Remains The Same in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi all, i'm new but have read an awful lot here plus jwfacts and jwsurvey over the past months, also the coc book.. i'm not a jw (and never will be) but have a wife who is a 'want-to-be' jw.

  this is quite a challenge for me as i already had an idea on some of the points jws stick to, but now with everything i have learned about the high-control methods, the changing doctrines, and the cover-ups, it's a real concern.... anyway, i was putting forward the notion that jw's don't help anyone in disaster zones, except jws, or by giving out wt tracts or magazines (which would be really useful to homeless, hungry and cold families).

  she didn't know, and doubted it, so i told her to ask an elder if the wt provides assistance at all anywhere.. she reported back that the elder said the wt does contribute to the red cross.

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